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		<title>Comment on Analysis of Decentralized social networking tools. by Vincent</title>
		<link>http://blog.soton.ac.uk/tag4fun/2011/05/17/analysis-of-decentralized-social-networking-tools-2/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, i work for Movim (on the top of your page).

We work hardly to build an usable version. The final release will be ready for next summer. In the meantime, we invite you to try Movim Next (daily build) at this address: http://etenil.net/movim/

Login : movim@etenil.thruhere.net
Password : movim

You can also come and meet us on our Jabber chatroom: movim@muc.jappix.com (or via the web on http://www.jappix.com/?r=movim@muc.jappix.com )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, i work for Movim (on the top of your page).</p>
<p>We work hardly to build an usable version. The final release will be ready for next summer. In the meantime, we invite you to try Movim Next (daily build) at this address: <a href="http://etenil.net/movim/" rel="nofollow">http://etenil.net/movim/</a></p>
<p>Login : <a href="mailto:movim@etenil.thruhere.net">movim@etenil.thruhere.net</a><br />
Password : movim</p>
<p>You can also come and meet us on our Jabber chatroom: <a href="mailto:movim@muc.jappix.com">movim@muc.jappix.com</a> (or via the web on <a href="http://www.jappix.com/?r=movim@muc.jappix.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jappix.com/?r=movim@muc.jappix.com</a> )</p>
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		<title>Comment on Analysis of Decentralized social networking tools. by Larry Lan</title>
		<link>http://blog.soton.ac.uk/tag4fun/2011/05/17/analysis-of-decentralized-social-networking-tools-2/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Lan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 17:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice one apart from those huge characters..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice one apart from those huge characters..</p>
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		<title>Comment on News: Facebook Launches the New and Improved Photo Tagging by Jonny</title>
		<link>http://blog.soton.ac.uk/tag4fun/2011/05/13/news-facebook-launches-the-new-and-improved-photo-tagging/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 14:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is similar to the commercialisation idea we had except we would allow tags which link to pages to purchase the products, or the companies own websites, rather than just facebook pages (as we are not facebook).

This does show that users will be willing to tag products they own too - so it might not even have to be a fully manual process for a sponsor - they  could just set themselves up as one of the possible tags and users will, for example, tag their new iPhone 4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is similar to the commercialisation idea we had except we would allow tags which link to pages to purchase the products, or the companies own websites, rather than just facebook pages (as we are not facebook).</p>
<p>This does show that users will be willing to tag products they own too &#8211; so it might not even have to be a fully manual process for a sponsor &#8211; they  could just set themselves up as one of the possible tags and users will, for example, tag their new iPhone 4.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who is allowed to tag? by Privacy settings &#124; Tag4Fun</title>
		<link>http://blog.soton.ac.uk/tag4fun/2011/02/23/who-is-allowed-to-tag/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Privacy settings &#124; Tag4Fun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 13:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] First to be considered is the privacy of the image owner, who may not want his photos tagged. This is solved via the permissions as mentioned in the post &#8220;Who is allowed to tag?&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] First to be considered is the privacy of the image owner, who may not want his photos tagged. This is solved via the permissions as mentioned in the post &#8220;Who is allowed to tag?&#8221;. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on All about timing &#8211; response to Jonny&#8217;s replies for my questions and proposal by Jonny</title>
		<link>http://blog.soton.ac.uk/tag4fun/2011/03/29/all-about-timing-response-to-jonnys-replies-for-my-questions-and-proposal/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 18:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re totally right that the vast majority of users don&#039;t care in the slightest about the privacy, or data ownership issues with Facebook. However saying that nobody will support a decentralised alternative is wrong - as shown by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oexchange.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;OExchange&lt;/a&gt;. This is a collaboration between Google, Microsoft, LinkedIn, Digg, YFrog, etc.. as an open alternative to the Facebook &quot;Like&quot; button.

Facebook&#039;s grip on the internet is clearly a threat to innovation and other companies are now forming temporary alliances in order to level the playing field again. If OExchange is used more widely than the like button (it&#039;s not... currently) then Facebook will eventually be forced to abandon the non-standard Like button and adopt OExchange.

If anything, this is the perfect time to suggest workable alternatives to the Facebook platform, as it is still feasible for the other big social networking providers to fight back. Due to Facebook&#039;s recent expansion into the web in general (through Facebook Connect), other providers are going to be motivated to have their own offerings.

I do agree it&#039;s going to be hard to get people to switch from Facebook to an open alternative (such as Diaspora). That&#039;s why the proposal I made a few blog posts ago includes Facebook integration and avoids things such as forcing users to create new accounts. Websites which use the tagging system can choose to allow people to authenticate using their Facebook accounts, post to their Facebook wall, etc. exactly as they can currently. However, because of the decentralised nature - this could also invite new social networks, or existing social networks, to run their own etags servers which store the tags for their networks. All of the clients using etags could then have their photo pages with &quot;Photos on LinkedIn&quot;, &quot;Photos on the Web&quot; for example - which is a clear advantage over what Facebook offers. This could tempt users away from Facebook or encourage Facebook to embrace etags (or something like it).

Further to that, we would still be offering the cross-site tagging service, allowing blog and website owners the chance to allow people to tag the photographs they post. This is another thing which Facebook currently lacks (although I&#039;m almost sure they&#039;ll be working on this.... it&#039;s such an obvious idea... unless they are hoping to keep ownership of actual images for as long as possible).

I also don&#039;t think it&#039;s a bad thing to be ambitious here. Why should we be following the trend? (I&#039;d actually suggest we are following the trend of decentralisation which is being seen across the web except from Facebook - see Diaspora, Google OpenSocial, OExchange, etc. etc. but that&#039;s besides the point). Nobody got anywhere by keeping a low profile and thinking small. If we release the initial idea of a closed cross-site image tagging service we&#039;ll quickly be replaced by a more open solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re totally right that the vast majority of users don&#8217;t care in the slightest about the privacy, or data ownership issues with Facebook. However saying that nobody will support a decentralised alternative is wrong &#8211; as shown by <a href="http://www.oexchange.org/" rel="nofollow">OExchange</a>. This is a collaboration between Google, Microsoft, LinkedIn, Digg, YFrog, etc.. as an open alternative to the Facebook &#8220;Like&#8221; button.</p>
<p>Facebook&#8217;s grip on the internet is clearly a threat to innovation and other companies are now forming temporary alliances in order to level the playing field again. If OExchange is used more widely than the like button (it&#8217;s not&#8230; currently) then Facebook will eventually be forced to abandon the non-standard Like button and adopt OExchange.</p>
<p>If anything, this is the perfect time to suggest workable alternatives to the Facebook platform, as it is still feasible for the other big social networking providers to fight back. Due to Facebook&#8217;s recent expansion into the web in general (through Facebook Connect), other providers are going to be motivated to have their own offerings.</p>
<p>I do agree it&#8217;s going to be hard to get people to switch from Facebook to an open alternative (such as Diaspora). That&#8217;s why the proposal I made a few blog posts ago includes Facebook integration and avoids things such as forcing users to create new accounts. Websites which use the tagging system can choose to allow people to authenticate using their Facebook accounts, post to their Facebook wall, etc. exactly as they can currently. However, because of the decentralised nature &#8211; this could also invite new social networks, or existing social networks, to run their own etags servers which store the tags for their networks. All of the clients using etags could then have their photo pages with &#8220;Photos on LinkedIn&#8221;, &#8220;Photos on the Web&#8221; for example &#8211; which is a clear advantage over what Facebook offers. This could tempt users away from Facebook or encourage Facebook to embrace etags (or something like it).</p>
<p>Further to that, we would still be offering the cross-site tagging service, allowing blog and website owners the chance to allow people to tag the photographs they post. This is another thing which Facebook currently lacks (although I&#8217;m almost sure they&#8217;ll be working on this&#8230;. it&#8217;s such an obvious idea&#8230; unless they are hoping to keep ownership of actual images for as long as possible).</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a bad thing to be ambitious here. Why should we be following the trend? (I&#8217;d actually suggest we are following the trend of decentralisation which is being seen across the web except from Facebook &#8211; see Diaspora, Google OpenSocial, OExchange, etc. etc. but that&#8217;s besides the point). Nobody got anywhere by keeping a low profile and thinking small. If we release the initial idea of a closed cross-site image tagging service we&#8217;ll quickly be replaced by a more open solution.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tagging:What it is by Bharat</title>
		<link>http://blog.soton.ac.uk/tag4fun/2011/03/11/taggingwhat-it-is/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Bharat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Work Sumair !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Work Sumair !!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What if the image is changed after being tagged? by Week 4 &#124; Tag4Fun</title>
		<link>http://blog.soton.ac.uk/tag4fun/2011/02/23/what-if-the-image-is-changed-after-being-tagged/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Week 4 &#124; Tag4Fun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The problem of what to do if an image is changed or deleted was discussed and there is already a post on this blog which covers the majority of our discussion here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The problem of what to do if an image is changed or deleted was discussed and there is already a post on this blog which covers the majority of our discussion here. [...]</p>
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